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The Scene You Hate
A friend, having read my last post, asked if The Queen really objects to botanical inaccuracies in movies. Oh yes, yes indeed. And not just in motion pictures, either. If I'd known, in advance, that the TV show LOST would feature a bunch of people on a tropical island populated with temperate foliage, I never would have put it in my Netflix queue. Of course, I'm just as bad when something I'm passionate about is misrepresented on film. Like games, for instance. I still break into hives whenever I think of the scene in Freaks and Geeks where the parents play the card game Pit, just the two of them. But my all-time least favorite scene--one that appears in about every third film, seemingly--has to be this one: The hero and the antagonist are playing chess, a game in which both are virtual grandmasters. It's a close fought match, and they banter while they play. Slowly, their moves--and their conversation--become more aggressive. Eventually they are openly hostile to one another, both on the board and off.Yes, I understand that one grandmaster saying "I'm going to checkmate you in seven moves" followed by 23 straight minutes of the opponent staring at the board before replying, "ah, you are right--good game" lacks some of the "pizzazz" of the Hollywood version. But I still would rather sit through both episodes of Viva Laughlin, back-to-back, than endure this scene again. What's the scene you hate? Posted on December 18, 2007 to Mob RuleComments
And I'll make the joke before anyone else does: "The hipster scene!!!!!!!" There, done. Posted by: Matthew on December 18, 2007 11:31 AMPretty much any scene involving a computer, a "hacker" and an unbreakable system that has a flashy GUI. Or when someone is using a computer and the screen is projected up on their face. Posted by: Akbar Fazil on December 18, 2007 11:49 AMI don't recall any movie portray "hacking" in a remotely realistic fashion. Posted by: Tim Hettler on December 18, 2007 11:53 AMI remember having this chat with a bunch of uni friends of mine; the medical students were complaining that they now couldn't watch ER et al, because they had, you know, such a detailed understanding of the underlying material. A friend of mine then piped up from the corner "That's exactly why I can't watch porn". Still one of my favourite comebacks of all time. Posted by: Ben on December 18, 2007 11:55 AMOver the Hedge: The turtle makes a point of correcting one ignorant human who calls him an amphibian, but in the same scene appears out of his shell. Pick either cartoony and ridiculous or factual; you're not allowed to do both. Posted by: Tracey on December 18, 2007 12:00 PMAkbar already beat me to it, but I can be more precise - the computer scenes in CSI Miami. WTF crazy ass operating system are they running there? And in ANY show/movie, when they are looking at CCTV footage (or something else that is equally horrendous, quality wise), and one person asks the techie "Hey, can you clean that up for me a bit?" and it goes from pixellated, completely unable to make out ANY detail to crisp, clear, as-if-it-was-taken-on-a-30-megapixel-camera quality. WTF? What kind of crazy ass algorithms are they using?? Particularly bad was an episode of CSI Vegas I watched recently, where not only did it magically clera up, you could see the text in the application's tool window and it was like "Increase contrast" or something equally ridiculous. Posted by: Ryan Waddell on December 18, 2007 12:02 PMBreaking the vase over the head. Victim conks out, comes to, and is fine. Simplistic head injury depictions: Grrrrr. Glowsticks among the audience in "Almost Famous". Grrrr. Old style tube televisions that are turned on, and the image and sound come on immediately. Grrrr! Posted by: becky on December 18, 2007 12:19 PMDitto Waddell on CSI [everywhere]. (Since when is phenolphthalein the forensic equivalent of duct tape?) As a molecular biologist, I freak out when movies resolve a "genetic match!" in seconds, essentially distilling work which takes me several days to a single key stroke. Bastijes! Posted by: Juliane on December 18, 2007 12:20 PMI work in a lab, so CSI is cringe-inducing. House is better with their lab stuff in general (they have to actually interpret their data, it takes a while to get tests done, etc.) but doesn't have any full-time lab staff. The doctors do labwork! Posted by: Eva on December 18, 2007 12:21 PMAny scene involving non-ticking man-portable nuclear devices where the characters handle said devices as if the slightest jar is going to result in a multimegaton fireball. My, albeit unprofessional, understanding is that the problem with creating a nuclear explosion is actually getting it to go off. And yes, I understand there are conventional explosives involved, but there's no way the not-so-well-known conventional explosive risk is the one with which the director is trying to create tension. No way. Posted by: Lance on December 18, 2007 12:22 PMThe scenes in movies or tv where people are playing video games without watching the tv and hitting buttons at random. Sometimes they put the controllers down and the game keeps going on behind them! Also there was one time where someone was playing a game and everything even looked right, but it had the wrong sound effects. My wife called me a dork when I pointed that out to her. Posted by: Brian on December 18, 2007 12:25 PMWhen a character needs to do research at a library, and they manage to find the right information within 2 minutes of arriving without even checking the index of the book. They open the book to a random page, and by the third or fourth page turn they find exactly what they need. Perhaps it's not as ridiculous as increasing the quality by zooming in on a blurry picture, but still. As a recent college grad, this pisses me off to no end. Posted by: Katy on December 18, 2007 12:27 PMCome on, a Viva Laughlin marathon is what, 2 hours max (only one hour in Australia!) I hate inaccuracies such as this... People crawling through HVAC ductwork to get from one part of a building to another. As an HVAC engineer and mechanical contractor I can assure you that this can never, never, never, never, NEVER happen. I'll spare you the exact details why. Posted by: Carl Parsons on December 18, 2007 12:31 PMI hate needless destruction and killings. Sure, James Bond, you drive your tank through the alleyway in pursuit of the bad guy. But how many houses did you wreck on either side when it turned out the tank was wider than the alley? Batman killed/injured a bunch of policemen in the latest Batman movie, too. I did not like that. Posted by: srah on December 18, 2007 12:32 PMFor all that The Wind Waker is my favorite of all the Zelda games, I am supremely disappointed at how unrealistic the actual mechanics of sailing are. Posted by: Jon F on December 18, 2007 12:37 PMStallone's rock climbing movie where he's free climbing 500 feet off the ground (something no responsible ranger would ever do), with a full rack of protection (when no more than ten or fifteen pieces would do), and NO FUCKING ROPE (which renders the protection pointless and turns the free climbing from reckless and irresponsible to borderline suicidal). Also, any scene in any movie ever where the hero cavalierly knocks someone unconscious by hitting them on the head, ignoring: 1. That's actually fairly hard to do, 2. Anytime you knock someone unconscious, you're doing at least minor brain damage, and 3. Knocking someone out by hitting them is actually one of the most dangerous ways of rendering them unconscious. And, yes, this makes it impossible for me to enjoy pretty much any movie ever, and most TV shows. Posted by: Mike on December 18, 2007 12:41 PMA chess-related movie I recently watched ended more or less just as you wish - "I have mate in one move" - a few seconds of pondering - "Yes, you're right." Posted by: Steve on December 18, 2007 12:46 PMsrah, while I do agree with you on the mindless destruction and property damage that happens, Batman did not actually kill anyone. I too was bothered by that and had to watch it again. The one scene where the Batmobile crushes the cop car, a quick shot shortly after shows the cops alive in the car just really squished underneath the damage. Want an interesting body count, watch how many "red shirts" die in The Incredibles. It is an extremely violent film if you look at it from that point. here is another one: this one only slightly peeves me. non-reloading of guns. If we cut to elsewhere in a scene, I can accept that the main actor has just reloaded his gun. But when you keep seeing the actor and he fires more than he should, that bugs me. Case in point, in Tombstone (during the OK Corral shoot out) Val Kilmer fires a double barrel shot-gun three times all in one scene. Posted by: Akbar Fazil on December 18, 2007 12:47 PMAny scene establishing that a couple is happy or that friends are great friends. At least the former is usually limited to the beginning of the movie and comes with the assurance that this happy couple is about to be tormented (cf., Hand that Rocks the Cradle). The great-happy-frienship scenes often take up the body of terrible movies (cf The Big Chill). Either way, it's agony -- lots of forced laughter and people sweeping each other off each others' feet with big hugs. Happy people are very dull. Along the same lines, scenes in which audiences really enjoy a (fictional) performance are usually terrible. Worst are reaction shots to stand-up comedy performed by one of the characters. Punch Line was the worst that could ever be in this regard. Posted by: Andy James on December 18, 2007 12:56 PMOoh, I'm with srah, here. So many action movies love those market-chase-scenes, and I always find myself thinking 'Well, great, now who's gonna pay for this third-world merchant's fruit stall you've ruined?'...
Carl Parsons: My husband is also an HVAC installer. He also points out his frustration with the impossibleness of this action. All the time. In every scene like this. That is a scene I hate now - just because I know I'm going to hear about it. Posted by: MelissaInAz on December 18, 2007 1:22 PMany movie where they use a search engine - how come they always find the information they need on the first page with some super general search criterion usually any movie that has some engineering guy that has to repair some facy gizmo that's smashed to pieces...really, you rebuilt a cryptographic black box you've never seen before with just a soldering gun? or pretty much any fight scene - guy gets pummmeled and thrown around and can still get up and save the day. heck, even Lenox Lewis feels hurt after getting hit in the gut and you're saying some out of shape scientist turned hero can take 20 shots to the face and still function? Posted by: on December 18, 2007 1:25 PMSpeaking as a skydiving instructor, I can say with confidence that skydiving is never, ever, done right on screen. Usually they blow it with crappy green-screen effects (see Point Break), but even when they film actual skydives, they cut the footage into something impossible (again, see Point Break). The sad thing is that Cutaway (starring a lesser Baldwin and Dennis Rodman!) is a friggin' documentary compared to everything else, and it still sucks. Posted by: Brian on December 18, 2007 1:32 PMAny medical drama where a character is "having chemo" or "taking fertility drugs" and no further clarification is made. There are only about a bajillion different kinds of chemotherapy/fertility regimens, and come on, if it's a show where somebody's chemo or fertility status is relevant, you might as well get it right. Gah. Any scene where the hero or heroine runs out of bullets and throws away the gun in frustration. Um, theoretically guns have monetary value and there ARE ways to acquire more bullets, yes? Any scene on COPS where the suspect is struggling and thrashing and yelling "I'M NOT RESISTING ARREST!" Okay, fine, that's a reality show and should be exempt from this list, but it's still super lame. Can it get in on a technicality? Posted by: akeeyu on December 18, 2007 1:33 PMThis is a little off the subject, but I always think it is funny to realize that in any music/club scenes where people are dancing or talking, there is really no music playing. People look a lot sillier after that. I really get annoyed with just general mistakes. Like in Heroes when Peter "blows up" basically and his brother is very badly burned; Peter lands with most of his clothes still intact. no. way. that. would. happen. Posted by: Shannon on December 18, 2007 1:42 PMOften in the same movies as the escapes through ductwork or grainy image made crystal clear type movies is the, "Can we see the 3D version of this building/ city?" and up pops a cool 3D wire frame fly through telling them how to get to the safe or blow up the building. I'm an architect and I do computer renderings freelance as well. I can tell you, never, ever are there building models with this much detail in them. There's no city mainframe that would have this information in a cool 3d computer format either. Also, in one of the Ocean's 11 movies they break into an architect's office after dark to get the plans for the safe they are about to crack. Architects offices are never empty! There's always someone pulling an all nighter in the office! Posted by: foglite on December 18, 2007 1:50 PMSee if you can guess my profession based on what scenes I hate: Pretty much any courtroom drama or law firm depiction. I have never in my life seen a movie or TV show that comes anywhere near showing either courtroom procedure or law firm life accurately. I know the argument that some license must be taken for purposes of making an entertaining story, but given that courtrooms are incredibly dull places in the real world, why bother setting a work of entertainment in one? Posted by: Dan Someone on December 18, 2007 1:52 PMAny film set in London apparently needs to have a scene set on that bloody bench at the top of Primrose Hill, even if that makes no sense with the established geography of the rest of the film. I understand that it's got a great view, but Primrose Hill has a specific geographic location--it doesn't float around London of it's own free will. 1. I hate it when scenes begin in a college lecture hall, just as a class is about to end. The professor (always a middle-aged, bearded white man in a corduroy blazer with elbow patches) is conveniently just winding down his lecture on "Shakespeare" or "Evolution" or "Math," and all that's left is some "pithy" statement that anyone who knows anything about the subject could tell you is essentially meaningless. As he reminds the students that they have X assignment due next week, they quietly file out of the classroom. 2. "We thought that we would teach/help/inspire so-and-so, but it turns out that so-and-so taught/helped/inspired us!" Posted by: Elise on December 18, 2007 2:06 PMI hate when a hungry person gets something to eat and they instantly turn into an animal. ok, i KIND of get it when it is a street urchin who some nice lady is giving some scarps to. or maybe someone picked up from a desert island. MAYBE. but even still I think if I were just hauled on board a coast gaurd cutter and they said "you are safe now, here is a bowl of warm soup." I think I could retain enough of my dignity to say "oh, a spoon would be nice, thank you. I'll wait for a spoon thank you, but it looks GREAT! mmm can't wait!" Posted by: darkpony on December 18, 2007 2:08 PMI hate hate hate when non-musician actors are hired to mime playing music. Come on Hollywood!!! Ninety-nine out of a hundred guys in California play guitar. If he can strum, he can bow a violin in time. Why do you cast the one guy that can't!!! As soon as I see this, I'm unable to hear any dialog until the music stops. And Carl, please explain the HVAC thing. Posted by: Eric on December 18, 2007 2:22 PMAlmost anything having to do with aircraft. The guy who doesn't know how to fly but can land an airliner with no injuries on his first try. The computer system that can move a ground-based navigation station with just a few keystrokes. The rotating localizer antenna. The quote "He's firewalled his transponder" (and I only wish I were making that up). Posted by: CJ on December 18, 2007 2:22 PMAnytime someone picks a lock with a single pick and no tension wrench. Posted by: Crash on December 18, 2007 2:33 PMDan Someone CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH! Posted by: Crash on December 18, 2007 2:36 PMempty suitcases. I actually thought that Freaks and Geeks scene was cute: Like the parents are so clueless that they'd play Pit together. I'm in with those of you who hate the computer errors. A couple of my favorites: T2: At one point, Joe Morton's character (having realized his complicity in creating the mechanical overlords) says something like, "We'll have to go back to the lab and destroy all the disk drives!" Yes! Get rid of the disk drives! Because then they won't be able to read any of their disks and they'll be stuck! Majority Report: Though the interface that Cruise uses is teh cool, he then transfers data from one side of the room to another using some kind of futuristic floppy disk. What? We lost network technology somehow in the future? Posted by: Dug on December 18, 2007 2:42 PMAlong with the infinite-resolution-videotape problem comes the somehow-three-dimensional-photograph problem. The first time I saw it, it was in Blade Runner -- by doing some fancy zooming, he could see what was behind other objects in the photo. Ok, well, it's the future, maybe there's something to that, but I've now seen it a dozen times since then, set in modern times. Puh-leeze. I think those of us who work in graphic design and have to deal with a ton of crappy low-res photos provided by clients are especially annoyed at these techniques. Trust me, folks, Unsharp Mask will not be able to pull up information that isn't there. Posted by: Matthew F on December 18, 2007 2:43 PMOh my god, the "hacking" scenes on Sneakers. So painful, so, so painful. Posted by: Allie on December 18, 2007 2:54 PMYael - a translation annoyance that occurs to me is the whole Black Rock thing from Lost where Shannon, after her one year spent drinking in Paris (argh, there's more to studying abroad than that!), is suddenly some kind of expert and even manages to translate lines before they are said. Posted by: srah on December 18, 2007 3:00 PMAnother language nitpick: Everyone speaks English everywhere in the world, at every point in history. There are a lot of times in movies where I'll have to step back and think "Okay, I'm seeing this in English, for the movie's sake. But what language would these two actually be conversing in? Do these two people even have a common language?" Posted by: srah on December 18, 2007 3:09 PMsrah -- did you end up watching the rest of LOST? I remember Shannon's poor translation turning out to be something of a plot device. Didn't we later find out that most of her French came from babysitting a French kid that watched a whole lot of Finding Nemo? Posted by: josh on December 18, 2007 3:12 PMmine is the extreme difference in how gunshot victims or trauma cases are treated, depending on genre and script needs. on a medical show, they spend hours trying to save them. on crime shows, they die almost immediately. the x-files was a special case of pure annoyance, where I can't ever remember seeing Scully even attempted to resuscitate a victim. Posted by: josh on December 18, 2007 3:19 PMA common one that bugs me is the scene in an action movie where the hero falls off a building or ledge or something, falls twenty or thirty feet, and catches himself by his fingertips - most of us couldn't even hold our own weight with just our fingers, much less stop the inertia of our full weight falling. Posted by: SMurph on December 18, 2007 3:25 PMGood point, Josh. The movie was so lame, I've completely blocked it out, but after the girlfriend was shot, the boyfriend immediately drops to his knees and yells "NoooOOooo!" I poked my husband in the ribs and said "If I'm ever shot, don't sit around and emote like a dumbass. Call 911 and apply pressure." Posted by: akeeyu on December 18, 2007 3:31 PMMatthew F: Though very unclear in the film, I believe Deckard is supposed to be enhancing an image in a mirror of another reflective surface in order to "see behind other objects."
Text being sent character by character in DOS/UNIX screens (the Matrix). Characters interpreting meaningless binary or ASCII static as if it was comprehensible (too many to name). Computers of one model being shown with an incongrous OS on-screen (usually a Mac OS interface displayed on a Wintel-type box). (Office Space). Files being "deleted" from a system while a character has already loaded them into memory (Clear and Present Danger, Disclosure). Young children being portrayed as professional-level computer experts/hackers/whatnot (Jurassic Park).
Many folks have pointed out the hacking scene. But I might also note that actual hacking is largely non-Hollywood as well. First, it rarely uses fancy graphical interfaces (especially when the protagonist has been working frantically to design the hacking application/virus for this special system, e.g. Independence Day - don't even get me started on this one). I'll defer to your wife on LotR, but Lost is filmed almost exclusively here in Hawaii. Maybe indoor set dressing or some b-roll was shot elsewhere, but the large majority of vegetation in Lost is growing in the ground here. Much of it may not be endemic, but it's what we have... Posted by: Larry on December 18, 2007 3:37 PMAnything involving bird life: birds seen in the wrong habitat, birds seen in the wrong hemisphere. Ventriloquized birds particularly frost my pumpkin. One all-too common example: Red-tailed Hawk (Buteo jamaicensis) has a very dramatic vocalization, a loud, falling "keeeeer." Film and TV will pair that voice with just about any other bird of prey, especially Bald Eagle (Haliaeetus leucocephalus) or Golden Eagle (Aquila chrysaetos). These two birds, in life, have squeaky little calls. Posted by: David Gorsline on December 18, 2007 3:50 PMA Kevin Costner spy film. I think Gene Hackman had a blurry polaroid of a Russian suspect. After a couple hours of running it through a computer the polaroid reveals... Kevin Costner was a double agent!!! ZOMG!!!!!!! Posted by: Milkshake on December 18, 2007 4:08 PMOver the years it began to bother me that "Stargate" characters, despite their instant transport from a mile-high location (which may be 36 stories below Colorado Springs, but is nonetheless quite high) to their ground-level destination never complained of the massive ear, nose and sinus pain that probably would cause. This is to say nothing of the constant recycling of various bits of Vancouver to represent hundreds of alien planets, because the incredible Ancient Race could only plant their stargates in one of several sorts of climates: desert and evergreen forest, with the occasional matte painting or urban fringe thrown in for good measure. Also, in 10 years, it occurred to just two of their enemies to come up with a way to counter Earth's small-unit tactics, and the first attempt was abandoned while the second attempt was really just a plot to entrap some main characters. As the MMO computer game set in the SG universe gets closer, I just wonder how they'll manage to balance the two forces, when the enemy army could be outwitted with civil-war tactics, to say nothing of modern warfare tactics. Posted by: LAN3 on December 18, 2007 4:12 PMI've loved Hugh Laurie since the mid-80s, but! House! Considering how many bureaucratic migraines have been visited upon American hospitals by various HMOs [and even up here in Canada the bureaucracy can be a nightmare], I have trouble watching a show where all the residents can go anywhere in the hospital and use any equipment, at any time. I'd like to see a satire show, "House HMO" to see how soon House would blow a blood vessel with all the regulations. Jane Posted by: Jane Farries on December 18, 2007 4:16 PMScene: the bridge on any spaceship Engineer: Captain -- we've lost all power. We can't even maintain life support. Captain: But gravity? We've still got that under control, right? Oh, wait -- that never happens. Also, the interconnectivity of alien technology. Do Klingons use ASCII? Posted by: Boofus McGoofus on December 18, 2007 4:23 PMRealistic(ish) hacking scenes: Wargames "Wardialing" (perhaps the most broad sort of hacking, analogous to trying thousands of doors to find one that's unlocked, or perhaps one that opens to someone who speaks your language) Real Genius: Lazlo manually(!!) attacks a password using an alphabetic brute-force method. Would a computer back then be programmed to alert anyone that one user is trying many different passwords? Probably, but maybe not. And, I can only repeat what I've read on this, but The Matrix: Reloaded, in which Trinity is attacking the power-station's computer. Sez IMDB: "[Trinity] uses Nmap version 2.54BETA25 (an actual port scanning tool) to find a vulnerable SSH server, and then proceeds to exploit it using the SSH1 CRC32 exploit from 2001." And of course the many thousands of examples of "social engineering" in which some sucker is induced to give up personal info, a password, or access to finances because they were manipulated by a conman. Posted by: LAN3 on December 18, 2007 4:26 PMYoung children being portrayed as professional-level computer experts/hackers/whatnot (Jurassic Park). "I know this system!" is maybe one of my favorite stupidly funny movie lines of all time. House ... breaking rules Isn't that the point? Posted by: on December 18, 2007 4:37 PMYoung children being portrayed as professional-level computer experts/hackers/whatnot (Jurassic Park). "I know this system!" is maybe one of my favorite stupidly funny movie lines of all time. House ... breaking rules Isn't that the point? Posted by: josh on December 18, 2007 4:37 PMthe movie, "Outbreak"... It starts off in Africa where cute little monkeys with ebola are shown hanging from trees and using their prehensile tails... WFT??? As someone with an anthropolgy background this really chaps my hide. That Sir, is my big movie pet peeve... The giant-explosion-throws-our-hero-out-of-range-of-itself scene. You know the one. Picture a tunnel or corridor, a big ass fireball, and a little silhouetted figure. The little figure can't outrun the explosion, but luckily the shockwave picks him (occasionally her) up and throws him to safety. The "I know! If we reverse the polarity we can avert catastrophe!" scene. As the son of an elelectrical engineer, I learned early on that this just means A)putting the battery in backwards or B)swapping the leads. This will either make your circuit not work, or go backwards. It was a staple in Star Trek TNG, which added the annoyance of watching some idiot in a jumpsuit "invent" the same solution to every problem every other week (One week technical problems, next week Ferengi trouble; repeat) to the disappointment of not seeing the Enterprise leap into reverse gear. And one last one on behalf of dear ol' Dad: I guess there's some truth to the saying that ignorance is bliss... I had to stop reading everyone's entries for fear of never being able to enjoy watching another movie again. Posted by: on December 18, 2007 5:00 PMAn "elelectrical engineer" is just like an electrical engineer, only more resourceful. You can tell, because they found more letters to stick in their title. Posted by: on December 18, 2007 5:02 PMAny show where someone is walking around with a cup of coffee and they hoist that sucker around so you can tell there isn't any liquid inside, yet they drink from it. Agony! Posted by: kerewin on December 18, 2007 5:02 PMI hate any scene where they're giving CPR and it just takes a couple seconds and the person sputters back to life. If you actually have to give a person CPR because their heart has stopped, they won't come back to life until an ambulance comes and shocks their heart, which can take awhile and is extremely hard work for the person giving CPR! Posted by: Kathryn on December 18, 2007 5:16 PMI really hate how big the Incredible Hulk's shorts get in the Incredible Hulk movie. The whole movie, my husband got punched in the arm every time that guy hulked out with me yelling "SERIOUSLY. How do the SHORTS get SO BIG!?" Although I am loathe to ponder the alternative. Thank you for allowing me to share this concern. Posted by: Max on December 18, 2007 5:32 PMThe spy/counterspy shows where Government employees track people's whereabouts using satellite imagery, quickly zooming and enhancing the images to show tiny details like documents, license plates, etc. Ugh! Posted by: SueWho on December 18, 2007 5:37 PMhttp://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/06/06 Just about any boxing movie grates on me, but the Rocky ones are particularly bad. They never block anything! They just take turns hitting each other in the head and body. Posted by: Adam on December 18, 2007 5:42 PMOh wow, I do love this thread. I'm with Dan Someone-- in both pet peeve and profession. Last night I was watching the episode of Veronica Mars (not recommended for you sticklers reading this, though if you can suspend disbelief it's a lot of fun) where she is on a jury. Everyone has reasonable doubt about the defendants and vote to acquit, 11-1. Veronica then spends the rest of the episode throwing around suggestions about how the defendants probably really did the crime, and of course in the end they convict them (just like 12 angry men, but the reverse!). In one especially egregious moment I actually started convulsively rolling around in bed, moaning "no, no, no, MISTRIAL! MISTRIAL!! REASONABLE DOUBT!!!" Posted by: ruthless on December 18, 2007 5:53 PMAny movie where the hero/villain/damsel in distress/breakfast pastry is falling from a great height and: A: is caught (for example, by Spiderman) mere moments before impact and suffers no deceleration injuries I really hate it when people speak the wrong language. When the setting is (for example) France and everyone speaks English that's actually ok, I don't mind, I get that I'm watching an American production with American actors. But when they go through the trouble of getting people to speak a different language, then it's the wrong one I HATE THAT! Like in Alias, when Sydney went to Taiwan and EVERYONE SPOKE CANTONESE! Not Taiwanese, not Mandarin Chinese (both of which are spoken in Taiwan), but Cantonese (which isn't)! Since they had Cantonese actors they could've just changed the script to set everything in Hong Kong, what's the difference anyways? Oh and Serenity, when the written Chinese was like upside down and backwards. I know they said that they figure the language would evolve, explaining away the accents, ok I'll buy that I even like that they're trying, but c'mon, the written word wouldn't have evolved to be upside down and mirrored. Makes no sense. Posted by: mim on December 18, 2007 6:19 PMAS for the aforementioned Batman gripe....even if he did hurt some of the policemen, don't forget that they were probably corrupt cops anyway, right? It is Gotham, after all. So it's fine. I was unhappy at first (I'm in law enforcement) until I remembered that... What bugs me more than people no reloading guns is when they do too much fancy stuff with it, and when the gun makes clicking-metal-noises any time you touch it. Unless the gun has some loose parts, it won't make a noise unless you deliberately move the action or something. I remember watching...Bad Boys? And watched Will Smith put a magazine into his semi auto, worked the slide (ch-chick!) to put a bullet in the chamber, went outside and did some stuff....and then when they were like, "Lete's do this!" they all worked the slides again (ch-chick!) which in reality would have ejected an unused bullet. I think Will probably ch-chicked his gun another time too before shooting. Gar. Posted by: Jamie on December 18, 2007 6:30 PMMost anything computer reference related. In particular, in the Jodie Foster flick "Flightplan" when they show the enormous and cavernously unoccupied 'supercomputer' room in the nose of the plane. Riiiight. Like any airline would buy a plane that wasted that much space and was a huge waste of fuel. That and all the blinkenlights and superfluous patch panels make me squirm. Posted by: HDC on December 18, 2007 6:32 PMThe scenes that drive me crazy are the ones where multiple millions of dollars are put in a regulation size briefcase. One brick of 100's, worth $1.6 million fresh from the Bureau of Engraving and Printing is approximately 19" x 28". No way is $10 million going to fit in that briefcase! Posted by: Yeti Mom on December 18, 2007 6:59 PMOkay, I hate the scene where commenters like SHANNON give away IMPORTANT THINGS ABOUT TV SHOWS that I haven't WATCHED YET on DVD. Ahem. Posted by: braine on December 18, 2007 7:11 PMAs others have said, anything computer-related is going to be unbearable. Though it can be entertaining to play "spot the OS or chip code." CSI episodes (possibly all of them) in which the lab folks interrogate suspects and make spot decisions about innocence (or lack of a case to take to trial) and tell the suspects, personally, that they're off the hook. Most of my personal worsts involve language: sf shows/movies where everyone speaks the same language, or better yet, there's some kinda "universal translator thingie" that makes everyone *hear* the same language... but with racially stereotypical accents and funky word order, like always the verb at the end of their sentence, putting are. Except when the magic translator suddenly "doesn't work," because the people only speak in metaphors related to their folk history (and this has never come up before) or the written language predates the founding of Galifrey or something stupid like that. I've tried very hard to be tolerant of the "Chinese" in Firefly. Usually I just pretend it's some minority language, not putonghua (Mandarin). But my all-time favorite is when there's a radiation leak or some other life-support failure and the count-down to the point of no return, everyone dies failure is in its final seconds, the problem is miraculously fixed... and everyone on board is perfectly healthy. That one's even ahead of interplanetary halfbreeds. (Ew.) Posted by: elizabeth on December 18, 2007 7:46 PMIn at least 2 Ridley Scott movies (Blade Runner and Black Rain), the hero is drinking heavily, and then does something that requires clear thinking and fast reflexes (chasing down a suspect on foot, for instance). This bothers me. The comments about using English no matter the time or place reminds me of this: "We are so poor we can't even afford a language, just these cheap accents." (History of the World Part I.) Posted by: aji on December 18, 2007 8:02 PMAs an ex Marine I find most military movies and tv shows almost unbearable. There's all the regular stuff like automatic weapons that that don't need to be re-loaded and never overheat; when was the last time you saw a movie where the A-gunner changed the barrel on a machine gun? Hell when was the last time you saw a movie that showed the A-gunner? They're not called "crew served weapons" for nothing. Then there's the whole uniform thing. Wearing the wrong uniform or wearing the uniform incorrectly, or having a non-regulation haircut. But the biggest thing about military movies is the actors. They never act like anyone I ever knew in the military. And that's what kills it for me. I'm always sitting there thinking "who would do that? or who would say that?" "who are these idiots? Did they even have a military advisor for this film?" While there are many scenarios I find unsettling - the elite computer people for any of the CSI's for example - there is truly only one scene I would go so far as to loathe. Any scene with a nude Bea Arthur. Well, except for that one video, but she made is special for my birthday. Posted by: MBCBUYB on December 18, 2007 8:30 PMOh, another one that drives me nuts and makes me forget the plot is when a supposedly newborn baby is crying but any parent worth their sleepless nights knows it is really a child at least 6 months old or, worse yet, an adult doing a truly awful fake newborn cry. Please, please just get the generic newborn audio tape and quit being so cheap with the sound track! Posted by: Yeti Mom on December 18, 2007 8:56 PMFor those complaining about Firefly's Chinese, did you ever hear the Chinese girl who appeared in the last few episodes of Buffy? I think she was a mandarin speaker who was cast as a Cantonese speaker, or she may not have actually spoken Chinese. Her way of speaking is amazingly toneless and flat most of the time. My wife (who's a native cantonese speaker) said I speak poorly, but at least I sound alive. I hate the entire genre of idealistic teacher movies. I work in a school for people with severe emotional problems in Chicago's inner city. We have the drugs and gangs. The idea that our students would do better if someone came in and challenged them to read poetry and believe in themselves instead of giving up on them like all the other teachers have is more than a little insulting to those of us who do this sort of thing day in and day out. Posted by: someguy on December 18, 2007 9:01 PMWith the exception of a few movies (and at the moment I can think of only one), movie industries portray giving birth as a quick, relatively painless procedure. Sure, you might hear screams coming from another room, but they don't last long. I would appreciate some sort of time-lapse signals, or someone informing us, "She's been in labor for the past 24 hours." Whenever movies and TV show scenes with books or libraries, they often use law books. These look great -- all uniform and official. In real life, these texts come in sets of hundreds. On screen, they show only a few here and there. So you might see one shelf of F2ds, a couple of ALRs, and a few Federal Digests scattered about. Or, worse still, a stack that includes just one book from a variety of sets, which is even weirder. I keep wondering how they got those books out of the library (you usually can't check them out) and when they plan to return them (especially those in How I Met Your Mother). Also: Cavalier HIPPA violations. Really annoying. See: most episodes of Grey's Anatomy. Posted by: Debbie on December 18, 2007 10:11 PMVolleyball scene in Top Gun. I guess you can include all sports scenes using the actual actors. Those short, aborted scenes that show the actor beginning a play/stroke/swing/whatever but never actually completing it - that really bothers me. Posted by: on December 18, 2007 10:38 PMWhat about when someone is trying to hide/escape so they pop open a manhole lid and jump in the sewer? Have you ever tried to lift a manhole cover?? You will need a crowbar or special tool and at least one other person helping you. Posted by: SueWho on December 18, 2007 10:59 PMExplosions! Explosions! Explosions! I've always wanted to film a bicycle chase scene, and have a bicycle go off a cliff, the rider is thrown but uninjured (!!!) and then the bicycle explodes into a fireball! COOOOL!!! Posted by: mrgrooism on December 18, 2007 11:00 PMTHE SCENE IN THE PROFESSOR'S OFFICE (Yet another installment in the series of 'guess my profession' posts.) Somebody mentioned how every class ends with some pithy remark, an announcement of an assignment and everyone shuffling out quietly. What I always find infuriating is the scene where we go back to some low-to-mid-level humanities professor's office (as opposed to a science prof's beaker-laden lab) and it's some gigantic hardwood floored Edwardian drawing room with leather-bound volumes on inset wood shelves that go to the ceiling and a gigantic window that has an unobstructed view of the city/Elysian fields of the college. Even top of the heap professors at top of the heap schools don't have those sorts of accommodations. Even most of them have what I have - narrow linoleum-tiled rooms with walls of painted cinder blocks and particle board furniture. I remember seeing Stranger Than Fiction, where Will Ferrell visits Dustin Hoffman in his office, which is the size of a boardroom, has a separate seating area with leather couches and a clear view of downtown Chicago. I leaned over to my wife in the theater and said, "Why are they in the University Chancellor's office?" Posted by: Jaroslav on December 19, 2007 12:06 AMI have problems with the medical scenes in movies/medical shows like ER, Grey's Anatomy, House, etc. These shows always show doctors sitting by a patient's bedside constantly while taking vital signs and drawing blood. Doctors never do any of that, it's always the nurses! It is frustrating for me as a nurse because it gives a skewed image of what really occurs in the hospital. Most of the work is done by nurses, but they aren't ever acknowledged at all. Posted by: Sasha on December 19, 2007 12:12 AMThat bit in The Core, just after the starting credits. I think it lasted 2 hours. Any movie where an American does an "English accent". Curse you Dick Van-dyke ! Curse you !!! Posted by: Spod on December 19, 2007 1:20 AMPirates of the Carribean: Johnny Depp sails into harbour in a sinking ship with tattered sails and still manages a good rate of knots. Granted these are minor nit-picks in movies that are otherwise paragons of realism. Posted by: dj on December 19, 2007 2:31 AMMy favorite movie cliche is any scene where a woman in the middle of some personal crisis goes into the bathroom and buzzes off her own hair. She emerges with a totally cute pixie cut that could have been done by Frederick Fekkai himself. I guarantee if I did that (and I have), I'd look like a three-year-old went after me with a pair of pinking shears. Posted by: Kathy on December 19, 2007 3:17 AMMy favorite movie cliche is any scene where a woman in the middle of some personal crisis goes into the bathroom and buzzes off her own hair. She emerges with a totally cute pixie cut that could have been done by Frederick Fekkai himself. I guarantee if I did that (and I have), I'd look like a three-year-old went after me with a pair of pinking shears. Posted by: Kathy on December 19, 2007 3:18 AMI can't believe no one has mentioned this yet : *sound* in outer space ! Hello ? Near-vacuum ? Posted by: Miklos on December 19, 2007 5:39 AMIn criminal/drama shows where a crime/abduction is being investigated, and EVERY time their phone rings it relates to the task at hand. There's never an "Oh, that was my waife, I need to pick up drycleaning," or "Damnit! I have to go pick my son up from school - he threw up all over the classroom." Grrr. Posted by: Kelly on December 19, 2007 6:22 AMThe TV show Bones irritates the hell out of me. Sure, it was based on a real person who was a Forensic Anthropologist. Not a real person who had a PhD in Forensic Anthropology, Physical Anthropology, Cultural Anthropology, Linguistic Anthropology, AND Social Anthropology. Not! Possible! You cannot be describing someone's precranial ridge one moment and then site an obscure cultural study by Mary Leakey in the next! As a Cultural Anthropologist this reallllly bugs me. And! The stupid 3-D computer image machine they have that shows you exactly what someone looks like. Again: Not! Possible! Posted by: Ris on December 19, 2007 6:30 AMThe entire Live Free or Die Hard movie (I can't vouch for the 20 minutes near the end when I fell asleep - that part may have been completely realistic). Posted by: Janet on December 19, 2007 6:31 AMThe TV show Bones irritates the hell out of me. Sure, it was based on a real person who was a Forensic Anthropologist. Not a real person who had a PhD in Forensic Anthropology, Physical Anthropology, Cultural Anthropology, Linguistic Anthropology, AND Social Anthropology. Not! Possible! You cannot be describing someone's precranial ridge one moment and then site an obscure cultural study by Mary Leakey in the next! As a Cultural Anthropologist this reallllly bugs me. And! The stupid 3-D computer image machine they have that shows you exactly what someone looks like. Again: Not! Possible! Posted by: Ris on December 19, 2007 6:33 AMTo add to Daniel's comment, my husband hates any military movie where the person cannot give a proper salute. Also, apparently when groups of soldiers go into a room, look around and say "Clear" isn't actually how you would clear a room if you are in the armed forces. Posted by: Janet on December 19, 2007 6:39 AMI am so sick of movies with sensationalized images of bloggers- dressed to the nines, effortlessly tapping out some post full of subtle wit and insight. Just as they push "POST", their gorgeous girlfriend glides into the room, bearing with cocktails. Pleeeeze. When is hollywood going to stop glamorizing the blogosphere? It isn't all sexy glory and top-shelf liquor! Posted by: sgarst on December 19, 2007 6:46 AMOn the show Friends, an average coffee/barista waitress and a chef can live in a larger than average apartment in New York City. Posted by: cp on December 19, 2007 6:50 AMSince I was asked I'll explain why you cannot crawl through ductwork in a building. 1. The ductwork is usually too small. The size varies throughout the building starting out large and reducing down as the air is distributed to each room. At the room level duct is commonly no larger than six or eight inches in the smallest dimension. Where the duct is actually big enough to fit a person it usually leads directly to a fast moving fan and not to some convenient plot progressing location. 2. People weigh too much. Duct is mostly air and the hangers used to hold it up are not designed for the 150+ pound weight of a person. It would simply fall down if someone tried to enter a duct. 3. There are any number of nails and sharp edges inside of a duct. That's what holds it together. If a person were to try to crawl through this metal minefield they would be cut to shreds. So if you are ever locked in a room by terrorists you might want to rethink the escape via duct plan. Posted by: Carl Parsons on December 19, 2007 6:54 AMPretty much any scene that involves Nuclear: bombs, waste, fuel, anything. Having worked on a waste retrieval and cleanup project ruined me forever. Posted by: Slats on December 19, 2007 6:58 AMVideogame scenes, where someone is playing a videogame. That is inevitably 2 GENERATIONS OLD AND THEY'RE HOLDING THE CONTROLLER IN A WAY ONLY 5% OF THE GAMES USE. Sorry for caps, particular vehemance for this one (N64 is the main culprit). Posted by: Ben on December 19, 2007 7:26 AMKathy's woman-in-crisis hair cutting comments reminded me of the hair cut scene in "An Officer and a Gentlemen". The guys come out looking like prison camp inmates, but the girl has this totally cute bob. Riiiiight. Posted by: Krista on December 19, 2007 7:31 AMWhat I hate is having a countdown of an exact length when it is not something that can be so accurately measured. "They've been infected with a deadly virus and have only an hour to live!" Yeah, right. Pretty much any time people use computers or the Internet in a movie. Extra negative points for "hacking." Languages: I speak German. Americans, at any rate, pretty much always speak with what I call a "TV Nazi" accent. It sounds like what Americans think German sounds like, not like actual German or English spoken with a remotely authentic German accent. Say it, don't spray it, please. Particularly bad: There's one Stargate episode where Daniel Jackson pretends to be German. Not only is it a particularly awful accent, the writers threw in random German words that it would make no sense for him to use, apparently so it would be more convincing. The bad accent I can forgive (the character might well have mainly a scholar's reading knowledge of the language), but as a linguist he should know that he couldn't pass himself off as German with that wretched accent. He'd definitely know that if you were going to throw in German words with your English, it'd be words you might not know, rather than common every day words, e.g. articles. Also speaking of Stargate: Pretty much any anthropology, archeology, or linguistics in anything. Posted by: j00j on December 19, 2007 7:48 AMI saw it mentioned above about the computer scenes in movies being the worst, but I have to disagree: these are the best! Specifically, the "hacking" in Jurassic Park and most notably, Hackers. They're movies, people! Showing people hacking is not interesting. Showing "hackers" virtually flying around graphic representations of databases is hilarious! Get with it. Posted by: PeterJay on December 19, 2007 7:54 AMI see the typography geeks don't read DY. They go bonkers over this kind of stuff. One example: I first noticed this as a child watching Aristocats, but it's not uncommon. If characters are in a country, say France, and speaking English for our benefit but presumably speaking the language of the country, say French, why why why do *some* characters have cute French accents and sprinkle their speech with cute French phrases? Aren't they already speaking French?!?! Posted by: Moriah on December 19, 2007 8:19 AM98% of poker games. "Mr. Hero, the pot is mine" (four of a kind) I don't even play poker, but fucking come on. Posted by: Clambone on December 19, 2007 8:27 AMOK, Carl Parsons, I give up: Why a duck? Posted by: Dan Someone on December 19, 2007 8:33 AMYeti Mom: $10 Million? Not even $1 million will fit, which we know thanks to Rob Cockerham. http://www.cockeyed.com/inside/million/million.html You're right-- once you know about how big a million bucks is, it's annoying to see someone carry $10 million in anything less than a pair of large duffel bags, full. It's even worse in British shows, since the bills are larger. Posted by: LAN3 on December 19, 2007 8:45 AMPretty much any scene involving a psychiatrist or counselor doing or saying something completely moronic, neatly solving a lifelong psychological problem in less time than that chessgame took. Drives me BATTY! I try to turn off the part of me that spent years getting an advanced degree in the field, but it's impossible and routinely ruins movies and TV shows for me because I get sidetracked into a rant, complete with foaming at the mouth. Sigh. Oh, and the writer-as-tortured/insane is also getting old. Posted by: Lene on December 19, 2007 8:59 AMThis will really date me, but in the TV series "Hotel", apparently the GM - James Brolin - and his executive assistant - Connie Selleca - did EVERYTHING: there was apparently no staff. This will really date me, but in the TV series "Hotel", apparently the GM - James Brolin - and his executive assistant - Connie Selleca - did EVERYTHING: there was apparently no staff. Still so many ridiculous portrayals of females. How will I save my daughter from disney warping her young mind? -Woman just had hours of harrowing labor yet when they finally place the baby in her arms, makeup is flawless. -Woman is getting ready for bed - flawless makeup still on, hair perfectly coifed. -And the hooker with a heart of gold archetype has to go. Posted by: jen on December 19, 2007 9:12 AMI recall one episode of a local soap opera, featuring Settlers of Catan - with two people, one of the leaving, and the other saying "Ok, I continue alone". My brother learned morse code in the German navy and he always smiles about this Steven Seagull movie (I dont remember the title), were the hero taps in morse codes, communicating with his partner. University scenes involving referencing the calculus equations written up on the blackboard as "advanced math." Sure, I get that calc is a powerful tool, but we've got programs that do that now. Honestly, are they tapping some film intern who hasn't taken a math course since junior year of h.s. on the shoulder saying "hey, throw something up on the board so we're not pointing at empty space" Also, Monica and Rachel's apartment in Friends was originally rented to Monica's grandmother, and rent controlled. When Monica moved in she kept the grandmother's name on the books, and is paying the original rent. It comes up once or twice Poker scenes! Especially poker scenes where someone has a very good but beatable hand, bets it all despite the shows of strength from the hero, and then the hero flips up the nuts. Especially when the hero does this to three other players. In one hand. Casino Royale, I'm looking at you. Posted by: Jeremy Hornik on December 19, 2007 9:50 AMAlso, I feel like I should mention, that watching "The Wire" has ruined every other cop show for me. I mean, RUINED. They're so... stupid. OK, that's the wire plug for this thread. Posted by: Jeremy Hornik on December 19, 2007 9:53 AMSuch a funny thread! I think this one deserves its own page (ala Tricks of the Trade). I need to add some of my movie / tv pet peeves: - Similar to the ventilation ducts scenes, I don't know how many times I've seen someone go into an elevator and the doors open and... where did they go?? Why, through some hatch in the roof of the elevator of course! Perfect for evading or infiltrating (leads straight to the HVAC ducts). It got to the point that whenever I get on an elevator I look up to see if there is any service hatches or trap doors in the ceiling. Trust me - they aren't there.... unless they are under a lot of paneling and light fixtures - stuff you wouldn't be able to remove in the time it takes for the elevator doors to open. - Almost anytime the main character(s) enter a stripclub / bar, you are almost guaranteed that there is going to be a fight, some gunplay, or some slapping a person around. If bouncers are involved, they get taken out almost immediately. This scenerio also applies to any high school boys locker room (minus the bouncers). - Every time you see someone carrying a bag of groceries, there is a loaf of french bread and/or a bunch of celery sticking out. Not sure why this bugs me, but it really does. Posted by: 18Charisma on December 19, 2007 9:54 AMI hate all movies involving journalists who apparently have all the money and time in the world to go chasing around after The Big Story that Will TOTALLY Bring Down the Man. At an actual newspaper or TV station, the editor would be telling these clowns, "That's nice, but I need you to do a quick feature on this person in our circulation area who found a muffin shaped like the Great Pyramid. And when you're done there, you can call up meteorologists to ask them about the rain we are/aren't getting this winter." Posted by: Coyp Editur on December 19, 2007 10:24 AMI hate the scenes where the mouthy brat is supposed to be endearing. No, they're a brat, and you just want to slap...errr...put them in time-out. Posted by: Lost Poke on December 19, 2007 10:30 AMFolks enjoying this thread would probably get a kick out of "Ebert's little movie glossary" by Roger Ebert. Not necessarily irksome things, but chock full of rules of thumb like "If someone coughs in the first 15 minutes, they have a terminal illness"; or, as 18Charisma pointed out, "a bag of groceries must have bread and/or celery stalks sticking out." My peeve: all libraries are sumptuous places with mezzanines, wooden shelving, and those lamps with the green shades. The public libraries I've worked at sure don't look like that. Posted by: Khate on December 19, 2007 10:40 AMI'm with Eric - my husband is a violinist and most of the time any string player appearing on screen results in groans and jeers. "He's not even holding the bow right! And his left hand! A monkey would do better! Aaargh!" Though occasionally we're pleasantly surprised by someone who, though perhaps (probably) not playing the music you are hearing, is actually playing the instrument in some way that is not completely retarded. Posted by: kt on December 19, 2007 10:51 AMYou have way too many of these already, but my contribution is not even technical: I hate it when the hero bursts through a door/window/wall and responds to a comment that the bad guy just made, when it's obvious that they wouldn't have been able to hear the comment from outside the room. The only one I can think of offhand is from the Fantastic Four movie: Dr. Doom is about to kill the Invisible Girl, and says "It's time to end this". Immediately afterward, The Thing bursts through a concrete wall, and responds "No, Vic. It's clobbering time." So, what, The Thing was standing outside with his ear to wall waiting for the right moment to interrupt their conversation? Posted by: Dean on December 19, 2007 11:27 AMWow, I've just read the whole long throng of posts since my own, and they were GREAT. We should all hang out someday and get annoyed at movies together. But this is a bit too specific I guess; one of those things, like the chess-games, that won't make an interesting scene if realistic. Here are some more basic things nobody seems to have said yet: Also, my fiance used to work on a nuclear submarine, and I remember him being annoyed with: While I don't mind WATCHING crime shows (I especially like to watch CSI and play "spot when the cops SHOULD have read the Miranda rights and see all the info that is now inadmissable because they screwed up"), I HATE the effect that they've had on the general population, in terms of expecting mountains of detailed physical evidence when they sit on juries, regardless of the type of crime. Posted by: jd on December 19, 2007 11:56 AMI hate it when they have people fake knitting. Either learn it, or do crocher. Sheesh. AND, there was a Quilted Northern add that had the "quilters" using knitting needles. It's your BRAND NAME. Get it right. Posted by: wenders on December 19, 2007 11:57 AMI just thought of another one... in The X-Files movie, they pan back to show a landscape that is supposed to be just outside of Dallas, Texas. And there are mountains. Riiight. Posted by: wenders on December 19, 2007 12:10 PMSeveral scenes that are related come to mind. The hero is fighting with a bad guy, and the girl (yeah, always a girl) he just rescued is pushed down and/or knocked aside. She just kind of either lays there whimpering or stands around while the hero struggles with the bad guy, often with a gun sliding around on the floor. Jeez, lady, little help here? What a great thread! A lot of my pet peeves have already been identified: srah commented on the unacknowledged collateral destruction caused by good guys and superheroes, HS identified the lighter-than-air suitcase contents (or tiny suitcases: in old movies, the heroine always indignantly piles a corset and maybe a slip into something the size of a vanity case), and many have complained about search engines. The search engine thing really does get me. I work in an academic library, and I do a lot of reference work, and it's a source of endless frustration when I see, say, obscure one-horse-town newspapers fully digitized and searchable on the web, with no copyright or licensing restrictions whatsoever. I feel like it must give our patrons an unrealistic expectation of their own research results. What really fries my ass is when the search completely ignores the syntax of a well-crafted query: no quotes-enclosed phrases, no Boolean operators, just something like "NASA history" and then suddenly the exact info they need is right up at the top. Google would pay millions for that algorithm, baby. On the topic of things that bug, rather than actual scenes: auto drivers who converse with (or make out with) the people in the passenger seat, not looking at the road for insanely long periods of time. Oh man, does that make me crazy. And, drawing on my earlier life, when I worked as a bartender in a large hotel: hotel staff misbehavior. "Hotel Babylon" is the most egregious offender here, mostly because it's supposed to be such a ritzy, 5-star establishment. But the staff sit down in their uniforms in the public spaces, drinking and eating and laughing, use the front door instead of an employee entrance, work both as housekeepers and as banquet staff....oh dear lord, the list goes on and on. I find myself screaming at the screen--but I CAN'T TURN AWAY.... Posted by: Karen on December 19, 2007 12:39 PM"...auto drivers [...] not looking at the road for insanely long periods of time." Or drivers supposedly driving on a fairly straight pieces of road but who yank the steering wheel back and forth as if they are on an obstacle course... I hate it when bad guys have fully automated weapons but constantly miss their target, while the good guy has one single shot pistol and kills every bad guy - hitting every target aimed at. (i.e. True Lies) Posted by: rik on December 19, 2007 1:32 PMI'm an entomologist and my husband is a fisheries biologist, we're nasty movie company, too. :) Posted by: Chair on December 19, 2007 1:51 PMOh, yeah. Fake drinking. Just put water in the coffee cup so you actually drink something. Posted by: Lost Poke on December 19, 2007 2:01 PMAhhh, and then there is "Armageddon". The movie where evidently it's more feasible to train guys from an oil rig to be astronauts than it is to train astronauts to be able to run the drills. I can't stand melodramatic movies like that but alas, I'm not the one with the remote. Posted by: mommacinco on December 19, 2007 2:36 PMNot sure if one of the 134 prior commenters already said this, but I hate how the young, hipster, grungy WRITER_BIKE MESSENGER_FILL IN THE BLANK LOW WAGE EARNER can afford that really effing huge loft apartment with the great view of the river, the city and the bridge. Posted by: HeyJoe on December 19, 2007 2:52 PMok, older film and probably no one here saw it - it was a foreign flick about the castrati - the eunuched opera singers. I went with about 50 singers and orchestra musicians - At the very first scene where he opens his mouth to sing, and all this *sound* pours out, every single person in our group exploded with laughter. He didn't hold his tongue flat behind the teeth, which every opera singer has beaten into them at an early age. Ok, I guess you had to be there. Posted by: Classical Musc Broadcast on December 19, 2007 3:14 PMHow about when the bad guys car runs into the back of a parked car and flips over? Every time I try that I just smash up both cars. And why is it that every computer expert in every show is young, uber-cool, and has super trendy glasses and tussled hair? Where are all the fat hairy guys with three day old pizza stuck in their beards? Posted by: Stephen on December 19, 2007 3:28 PMI hate it when two people wake up together and start making out passionately. Do you not need to brush your teeth first!? In Hollywood, there is no morning breath. Posted by: Coco on December 19, 2007 3:55 PMI hate it when two people wake up together and start making out passionately. Do you not need to brush your teeth first!? In Hollywood, there is no morning breath. Posted by: Coco on December 19, 2007 3:56 PMI second above posters on driving. Also: Ten years ago or so I heard an interview with a former foreign legion soldier who talked about getting shot - which, apparently, produces an all-consuming pain no matter where the bullet hits you. "It's not like in the movies, that you can continue shooting with the other hand." My action movie experience has never been the same. Posted by: LemmusLemmus on December 19, 2007 3:56 PMThe car chase in The Matrix: Reloaded. I'm a car guy, and having an extended chase scene with a frillion cars in it, 98% of which came from GM, was quite distracting. Posted by: Sfida on December 19, 2007 3:56 PMNot so much a scene, as a line. "You knew my father?" It is in so many movies, not just the obvious ones. I'm really sick of hearing it. Can't they be more original? Posted by: Amber on December 19, 2007 3:57 PMoops The movie was Farinelli. One musical movie that does get it right: Not a "scene" per se, but my most hated thing in movies is the guy sitting near me in the theater (or living room, as the case may be) complaining about how one thing or another is portrayed in the movie.
I hate pretty much any period movie where someone plays a forte piano or clavichord and you hear a modern nine foot Steinway grand piano. They spend hundreds of hours getting the socks right and they can't be bothered to put a historically accurate instrument in the soundtrack. Bonus points for "The Piano," made infinitely worse by the insipid Michael Nyman soundtrack. Hey, kids, let's leave a crappy box piano that's been in the hold of a ship on a beach (and out in the weather) for a month, then go back and play it. Not only would it be so out of tune that you could not recognize anything anyone played on it, but you'd be lucky if it worked at all. After that, a naked Harvey Keitel was a blessing. Posted by: Doug Cooley on December 19, 2007 4:23 PMAs a nurse, I can hardly sit thru a scene where a person is in intensive care, hooked up to monitors, and another character walks into the room just as the nurse announces "I'm taking a coffee break" (what?? we can take coffee breaks??), administers a lethal injection and walks out while NO ALARMS SOUND! Yes, I'm talking about Million Dollar Baby. Million Dollar Load O' Crap, I call it. Posted by: Laurie on December 19, 2007 4:46 PMIn American Pie when the college student tells his brother that he can find the sex manual hidden behind a chemistry section in the library and they go to the 900s, which of course is history. Yes, I am a librarian, but it's such an easy thing to check! I hate it when they don't check. Posted by: Laura on December 19, 2007 5:50 PMThat porno when I recognize my ex-girlfriend (when we were still dating)! Posted by: john on December 19, 2007 7:01 PMI'm a historian, and it drives me nuts when someone in a show just gets on the internet and finds exactly the historic information they're looking for using Google. I remember an episode of Buffy where there's something going on at the school (naturally) and Willow jumps on her handy computer and in 10 seconds says "Look guys, I've found the answer to our problem in the Sunnydale High 1956 yearbook!" Folks, teh interwebs hasn't been around that long. While many important historical documents have been scanned/transcribed and put up on web pages, doing research on anything prior to 1990 that was not a major historic event is going to yield you bupkes. Scanning old yearbooks or transferring microfiched newspapers to digital formats is something that is not on any library's priority list; they don't have staff, money or time to spend on it, and if you want to do research on an obscure topic, you're going to have to get off your rear and look in an actual library. Gah. Posted by: CaTHY on December 19, 2007 7:10 PMThe entire movie Swordfish. Except for the part with Halle Berry topless. Posted by: Rick on December 19, 2007 8:25 PMOh, also Swimfan. Particularly the scene where they handcuff the girl in front of her body and then put her into the back of a cop car that has no dividing partition and bucket seats which provide easy access to the officer's holstered gun. Posted by: Rick on December 19, 2007 8:27 PMI don't know if it's been mentioned yet but I hate when a movie is shot in a geographic location I know well and there is a car chase and a left turn magically deposits them several miles away in another part of town. I don't know if it's been mentioned yet but I hate when a movie is shot in a geographic location I know well and there is a car chase and a left turn magically deposits them several miles away in another part of town. I weep over the treatment of women, particularly when Hollywood refuses to let pretty women be ugly, when really a little ugly would be justified (i.e. labor, terminal illness, etc.), and particularly when Hollywood somehow decides that such moments are the time to make pretty women be even hotter! (i.e. the strategic tearing/removal of clothing, strategically placed dirt/mud on their faces) The worst case of this is in MI2 - at the beginning of the movie they show a victim suffering from whatever virus that was and he looked postively vile after only a few hours of the illness, but at the end of the movie, when Tom Cruise's girl should only have minutes to live, she looks like she only has a mild stomach ache. At least be consistent! To that end, I really hate that the survival rates of women in movies are directly related to how attractive they are. Case in point: In "Independence Day" the PRESIDENT'S WIFE with her detail of Secret Service never has a chance, but the stripper with a heart of gold? She's going to live forever! My mom is one of those emergency preparedness people and whenever I want to make her really angry I tell her that my 48-hour kit includes a bikini, shiny lip gloss, and a bottle of self-tanner. Posted by: Heather on December 19, 2007 10:11 PMAnd while I am thinking about it, I really hate the recent climate-phobic movies where people are actually outrunning the cold ("The Day After Tomorrow") or the heat ("The Chronicles of Riddick"). I mean, seriously? In the shade or next to the fire it is a pleasant 65 degrees, but two steps away?! CERTAIN DEATH!!! Posted by: Heather on December 19, 2007 10:44 PMFor those of you who are bothered by CSI, I would like to point you to an internet sketch comedy group based in Vancouver, BC called LoadingReadyRun and one of their videos, CSI: CSI Posted by: Ellen on December 20, 2007 1:51 AMYou people are all great. Come watch movies at my place anytime. What really bugs me is the nasty cop bosses. You know, who never believe the hero, and usually end up suspending him from duty forcing him to go maverick and track down the big baddy by himself? Bad Boys is a parTICularly annoying example of this, because they end up killing all teh bad guys and blowing up all of the evidence. How are they going to prove it to their sceptic boss now? *sigh* Lame plot device alert.... Posted by: Clover on December 20, 2007 2:14 AMYou people are all great. Come watch movies at my place anytime. What really bugs me is the nasty cop bosses. You know, who never believe the hero, and usually end up suspending him from duty forcing him to go maverick and track down the big baddy by himself? Bad Boys is a parTICularly annoying example of this, because they end up killing all teh bad guys and blowing up all of the evidence. How are they going to prove it to their sceptic boss now? *sigh* Lame plot device alert.... Posted by: Clover on December 20, 2007 2:16 AM"I just need to put this single test tube in my otherwise empty centrifuge and we'll have the answer". Hello? You need to have another test tube of exactly the same weight sitting in the opposite position in the centrifuge to balance it. Otherwise you're going to break it... and those things are expensive! Posted by: Mon on December 20, 2007 5:04 AMI hate it when the scene involves a video conference call over the computer and they are supposedly interacting but you can see the time indicator moving on the recording. Even Simpsons did an animated video conference complete with the time bar, play and pause button. Posted by: Brian on December 20, 2007 6:28 AMPeople using balsa wood, or some other ridiculous protection as a barrier during a shoot-out, and during car chases when you have a the equivalent of a Yugo overtaking, or even pacing the equivalent of a Ferrari. And don't get me start on any of the CSI francises - talk about a 'cop' show for stupid people... Posted by: jimbo on December 20, 2007 6:44 AMI love how everyone in the movies always gets a parking spot right in front of where they're going in major U.S. cities. Posted by: Ken 2E on December 20, 2007 6:45 AMPeople using balsa wood, or some other ridiculous protection as a barrier during a shoot-out, and during car chases when you have a the equivalent of a Yugo overtaking, or even pacing the equivalent of a Ferrari. And don't get me start on any of the CSI francises - talk about a 'cop' show for stupid people... Posted by: jimbo on December 20, 2007 6:47 AMTo Ken 2E: whenever my husband and I are lucky enough to find parking right in front of where we are going we always refer to it as "Hollywood parking" Posted by: Yeti Mom on December 20, 2007 7:01 AMI spent years on the bomb squad, so any movie involving explosives, improvised devices, or explosions pretty much annoys me. An improvised device can be easily disarmed by just separating the detonator from the explosive, there's no need to agonize over which wire to cut. If that big explosion is going to break all the glass around you, you aren't going to stroll away from it. If it will pick you up and toss you across the parking lot, you're definitely not going to be able to hear your lovely co-hort talking to you for a few days. And I was in the Army, as was DH, so the military stuff drives us crazy. Also, when they show the characters shopping at the big box store and they have this whole huge, empty aisle to themselves. Anytime I go to Walmart, it's crammed with boxes in the aisle and half of the state shopping for pork rinds. Posted by: Becca on December 20, 2007 7:53 AMForgot this other CSI nit: addiction to stimulants combined with the ability to teleport. Which shift is Grissom on? (however you spell his name... I've watched all of five episodes, I think.) It's day, it's night, it's the next scene and he's magically 20 miles across traffic... I'd like to complain about the hokey lab stuff, too, but everyone else already got that. I almost mentioned the silly "French accent in France" thing in my earlier post, but I couldn't figure out what would be better. Speaking French with subtitles, I guess. But the American audience would never buy that, even assuming the studio wanted to invest in training actors to speak another language (or casting actors who actually do). And we can all see what happened in Firefly. So I'll give up on the language thing in TV shows (which I don't watch anyway), but hell, they ought to be able to do better in movies. Posted by: elizabeth on December 20, 2007 7:55 AMMovies that defeat their own premise. Minority Report is the worst example of this in cinematic history. The colour of the ball indicates whether a crime of premeditation or a crime of passion is about to happen. Crime of passion offers very little time to catch the guy before the dirty deed occurs, but one of premeditation allows for several days to pass, and two hours of chase scenes. So, what happens? Cruise's character is pre-destined to commit a premeditated murder based on the colour of the ball that comes down early in the film. In the end, the crime he commits is one of passion. Oopsie. Posted by: Keith on December 20, 2007 8:07 AMI hate animated movies where *female* critters are voiced by men. In most of the "bug" cartoons (Ants, Bee Movie, Bug's Life), all of the colony workers should be female. Barnyard is the worst: they have a deep male voice for a frickin' "milk cow"--with prominent udders for god's sake. Hello?? Dude, those are tits! Posted by: Dorothy on December 20, 2007 8:08 AMI can't believe this one hasn't been mentioned yet: The car-racing scene, in which the hero and his rival blast along at high speed and the director cuts back and forth between close-ups of their faces, with gritted teeth. They are neck and neck as they approach the finish line (or improbably narrow alleyway down which only one of the cars will fit) until one of the characters gets the bright idea to PUSH THE ACCELERATOR ALL THE WAY TO THE FLOOR and he zooms ahead into the distance. WTF? It didn't occur to you to floor it already? Particularly obnoxious in this regard were the 2 Fast 2 Furious movies, as they invented completely new nitrous-oxide related ways to use this ridiculous scene. Posted by: junior on December 20, 2007 8:32 AMOh, and scenes with lava in them. Remember the movie Volcano? There was a guy standing on the hood of some pickup truck who leaps (barely) to safety over the approaching lava - which the movie then tells us is hot enough to melt his entire truck on contact. Which is it? Is the lava so hot it melts pickup trucks on contact, or can a guy stand next to it and not suffer any apparent heat-related effects? Posted by: junior on December 20, 2007 8:41 AMThis commenter: Primrose Hill has a specific geographic location--it doesn't float around London of it's own free will. cracked me the hell up. As do you. Posted by: tasty on December 20, 2007 9:25 AMYou guys are great. One thing that hasn't been mentioned is smoking. Certain actors use smoking as a way to eeeeeeeeee-mote and show that their character is either edgy or stressed out or both. But in the case of some (I'm looking at YOU, Meg Ryan) you can tell they don't know the first thing about smoking. They fling the cigarette around like a crazy person, hold it awkwardly, and even (in Meg's case) hoist the glowing cherry into their hair when things are going really, really bad for their character. Christ, people, go to a bar. Watch the regulars. Notice the spare, sometimes elegant routine regular smokers have for getting nicotine into the body, exhaling smoke, and putting the ashes into the ashtray (or on the floor). Above all, Meg, pay attention to your movements and get that damn cigarette out of your hair. Posted by: Rebecca on December 20, 2007 9:29 AMKnowing a little about mass, I hate action scenes when a villian is shot and goes from standing to flying 50 feet backwards, arms flailing, and sprawls into a distant wall. No way. Also, people in movies who get a chance to talk before dying. Man, if you got a sucking chest wound, you're going to squirm around for a little while, bleed, then expire, not tell everyone the meaning of life. Posted by: Shawn on December 20, 2007 9:31 AMI have a master's degree in classics, so any attempt to portray ancient Greek/Roman history or literature tends to set off my nerd alarms. I can kinda understand history, but did the writers of Troy even *read* the Iliad? Alexander was just as bad, but reminds me of this really funny, arrogant Oliver Stone interview quote about why the movie didn't do well: "Perhaps I just failed in some way to communicate [my love of the story] to an American audience and American critics. I have to start with American apathy to ancient history....It really is there. I screened the movie for the Moroccan film festival. And I felt it in these places. Poland, I screened it in Poland. There's a fascination with that time, Greece, the details. And they know about Alexander. They know more than Americans. Americans don't really know... I wanted to get the language simple and strong like Greek dramas, so it was more like Euripides and also Aeschylus. Why didn't they write a play about Alexander? Could have easily been a trilogy. Why didn't anybody do that?" Here are some dates: Gee, Oliver Stone, I am also stumped why they didn't write about Alexander the Great, because I'm an American and don't know anything about history. Thank god you came along to make a TERRIBLE MOVIE about him to shed a ray of light into my ignorance! PS: If you want to see the whole interview, it's the URL I gave for this post. Posted by: Kevin on December 20, 2007 10:05 AMI'm not 100% sure Oliver Stone was referring to Euripides and Aeschylus when he said that. The question is at the start of a new paragraph after all (in the interview but not in your post), not directly after their mention. I think his 'they' refers to playwrights in general. "Why didn't they write a play about Alexander? Could have easily been a trilogy. Why didn't anybody do that? I mean why didn't Shakespeare touch the guy, or Marlowe or Goethe? He was famous. Nobody touched him. Why? Because there's too much success. He's too much - too much for people." -- Another thing I really hate in movies is jump-scares. You know that kind - a sound is heard or a movement is seen behind a curtain or something, the protagonist creeps up, pulls away the curtain and out jumps a screeching frigging cat, or bird. I absolutely loathe those moments because they make me hate myself for not being able to keep from jumping at them every time. I also thought of another. Pregnant women who are more or less unaffected by being pregnant. One example, in the new Battlestar Boomer is pregnant and imprisoned aboard the ship. Instead of showing her throwing up in a toilet or rubbing her stomach (two extremely common things pregnant women do) they show her in a tight shirt doing sit ups. Riiiiight. If Cylons are super human in that way too perhaps we are truly doomed. Posted by: Shawn on December 20, 2007 10:45 AMAnything with an f'ing horse. That's why they have riding specialists and experts on hand! Instead they have an English saddle on with a Western bridle and the the rider is doing who-knows-what with his or her hands. The scene calls for the horse to gallop and jump something while the person on board is flopping all over the place - it drives me crazy! As my riding instructor used to say, "The only person who could make their horse go faster by flapping their arms was John Wayne." Very few movies get it right - the Man From Snowy River gets a pass, as does the Lord of the Ring Triology. But anything lower budget sucks ass. Posted by: ensie on December 20, 2007 10:53 AMFirst, legal stuff. I used to practice criminal law and almost anything in a fictional criminal court makes me want to scream. The first time I watched "The Practice" on TV one of the lawyers tried to convince a jury that their client was innocent by saying "I believe he's innocent." Well hell, sorry, but you are very *specifically* not allowed to use that argument -- you learn that in first year criminal law. I also agree with whoever posted saying that CSI-type shows raise people's expectations about physical evidence in criminal investigations to unrealistic levels. In most criminal cases there is no DNA to test, and super-duper-high-powered fibre analysis is just not relevant. The vast majority of cases come down to "I saw him do it" vs. "no man, that wasn't me, it was some other dude." Finally, since I've mentioned DNA, in the movie "Mission to Mars" one of the characters mentions in passing the four nucleotides that make up DNA (C, G, T, AND A) and *gets one of them wrong*. I mean wtf? A little fact-checking wouldn't kill you. The one thing that really grinds my gears is in shows like Smallville or really anything that has to do with a superhero, the supporting character that is being attacked by the villain/freak of the week is unceremoniously tossed aside and knocked unconscious. This happens to such an extent that I am amazed that the characters aren't deemed clinically retarded. Don't get me wrong I understand that this technique is used so that these characters don't find out about the heroes true identity.But Come ON! The amount of times I have seen Lana Lang or Jonathan Kent thrown through a wall makes me wonder just how stupid that the show's creators think we are. Thats another thing that I don't like about superhero movies. Everybody that surrounds and loves the main protagonist is blissfully unaware of the heroes alter ego. The one defining difference between Clark Kent and Superman is the lack of glasses and a strategically placed lock of hair. Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen, and Perry White are all intrepid men and women representing the worlds most read newspaper. They can't even see through their coworkers thin facade. Batman Begins did a great job considering that the love interest finally figured out Bruce's Identity. So I have high hopes for The Dark Knight. And Say what you will about character actors, Heath Ledger looks re-gosh-darn amazing as the Clown Prince of Crime.
P.S. For the folks who are bothered by grocery bags having the inevitable french bread or celery sticking out of them, I pass on this link. This artist, Art Frahm, painted pictures in the 50s with an obsessive theme: women carrying bags of groceries that ALWAYS had celery sticking out the top. (The women also always have their underwear falling down, but it is more comical in its dated way than pornographic -- artistically related to the scene where Marilyn Monroe's dress is blown upward.) Posted by: nas on December 20, 2007 12:10 PMNumbers. Charlie gets some mathematically complex idea, which leads to his girlfriend figuring out how to model the idea on a computer. In the span of a couple hours. Nice gui, the works. wth? Oh hey, yeah, Numb3rs. I actually enjoy this show, when I see it (so I enjoy bad shows. So what?), but I suspect that anyone with even a little experience in math will find it extremely frustrating. The guy can use mathematical models to reach incredibly accurate results really really fast. Genius or not, that does not seem plausible. Posted by: Yael on December 20, 2007 12:54 PMJacen - best moment in all of Lois and Clark was when the guy from the future raves about meeting the famous Lois Lane and just wants to ask, "How stupid are you?" Posted by: harlemjd on December 20, 2007 12:55 PMI started writing a reply but deleted it when I got past 300 words of ranting. So, briefly: Any scene that takes place in a lab or involves any kind of scientist. I'm a lab based scientist and dispair at the pathetic lack of fact-checking and stereotyping. I'm not asking for total realism, but is internal logic too much to hope for? More annoyingly, the scene toward the end where either or both the Hero or Evil Villain-Type sudenly decide to break out the super-weapon. Seriously guys, if you have a huge weapon, secret move or superpower (I'm looking at you, Magneto) use it at the START of the battle. Heck, do it early when your opponent is still at home in the shower. I'm also bothered by the huge body counts the good guys tend to rack up. I don't care how [cute your relative is] / [expensive the stolen device is] / [etc], was it really worth the lives of a dozen bystanders and forty redshirts? Finally... where do all the henchmen come from anyway? I mean seriously, has anyone ever seen the ad for "Hench Persons Required: slavish loyalty a necessity, oddly styled uniforms provided"? Posted by: Bugs on December 20, 2007 12:56 PMI started writing a reply but deleted it when I got past 300 words of ranting. So, briefly: Any scene that takes place in a lab or involves any kind of scientist. I'm a lab based scientist and dispair at the pathetic lack of fact-checking and stereotyping. I'm not asking for total realism, but is internal logic too much to hope for? More annoyingly, the scene toward the end where either or both the Hero or Evil Villain-Type sudenly decide to break out the super-weapon. Seriously guys, if you have a huge weapon, secret move or superpower (I'm looking at you, Magneto) use it at the START of the battle. Heck, do it early when your opponent is still at home in the shower. I'm also bothered by the huge body counts the good guys tend to rack up. I don't care how [cute your relative is] / [expensive the stolen device is] / [etc], was it really worth the lives of a dozen bystanders and forty redshirts? Finally... where do all the henchmen come from anyway? I mean seriously, has anyone ever seen the ad for "Hench Persons Required: slavish loyalty a necessity, oddly styled uniforms provided"? Posted by: Bugs on December 20, 2007 1:01 PMOoooh, and I just remembered another one. In that show JAG, one of the protagonists, Mac, spoke Farsi. My aforementioned fiance had a bunch of other problems with the show, but I'm not gonna start with those. Posted by: Yael on December 20, 2007 1:03 PM#1 - any beer commercial showing fewer than 3 hot chicks per dork. #2 - anything that references man walking on the moon, or shows those terrible hollywood hoax pictures. Everybody knows we never went! Posted by: beerick on December 20, 2007 1:06 PMAnother thing that grinds my gears is when the villain's outlines that his complete plan for world domination to an incapacitated protagonist. You might as well hand out fliers detailing which wire to cut or the best way to bring down a dirigible. A really well conceived bad guy would shot the hero straight up rather than dismiss all of their henchmen and leave the super spy alone to his own devices. And please when you apprehend said super spy take off all their articles of clothing especially any watches or pieces of jewelry that could possible house a laser, saw , or some form of small explosive. I know this is sacrilegious, but If you look back Bond really isn't that crafty, his enemies are just that stupid. Posted by: Jacen Solo on December 20, 2007 1:22 PMUgh, JAG. Where to begin? And for any military movie that shows ZULU time. You only care for ZULU time when you're in that timezone. When you're in Iraq, or Hawaii, or wherever a hot shot team of lawyers goes (that happens right, JAG? right?) you go by the local time. Makes no sense to operate on the fact that it's midnight when the sun is up, and everyone is eating lunch. And military movies, especially submarines. As mentioned earlier, they aren't the dark moody places hollywood thinks they are. You can't be expected to clean if you can't see the dirt. They're mostly brightly lit at all times. And being cleaned. Also, flooding is generally a one way trip to the bottom. Much as your submariner son tries to lie to you about how safe it is, if there is a hole, water will come in. When that happens, the air inside gets pressurized. When that happens, (Boyle's law) the air heats up. So everything squishes and catches fire. Just so you know. Tell your submariner you're proud, and he can stop lying. You know he's doomed. Oh, and yeah, radioactive things don't glow green. Underwater, the water glows blue. It's called Cherenkov radiation. Posted by: Dan on December 20, 2007 2:07 PMExcellent thread. My top three: Since seeing the "you got me monologueing!" bit in The Incredibles, I've noticed how almost universal this scene is. Just feaking shoot the guy, don't spend five minutes yammering on. Any cop/CSI/law show where the suspect just starts answering questions, and never _ever_ says "I ain't talking without a lawyer!" The nine out of ten cop/csi/law Any scene at a club or concert where a band is playing, and the characters in the audience can carry on a normal conversation. Posted by: John I on December 20, 2007 2:16 PMExcellent thread. My top three: Since seeing the "you got me monologueing!" bit in The Incredibles, I've noticed how almost universal this scene is. Just feaking shoot the guy, don't spend five minutes yammering on. Any cop/CSI/law show where the suspect just starts answering questions, and never _ever_ says "I ain't talking without a lawyer!" Any scene at a club or concert where a band is playing, and the characters in the audience can carry on a normal conversation. Posted by: John I on December 20, 2007 2:16 PM@akeeyu: "Any movie where the hero/villain/damsel in distress/breakfast pastry is falling from a great height and: Though the movies don't ever get into it, this does come up at least once -- Spider-man catches Gwen Stacy with a line of webbing after one of the Green Goblin's many incarnations tosses her off a building. He pulls her up and she's dead! And he never knows if she was killed when Gobby th | |