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At The Dean Rally

I attended a Howard Dean rally a few days back. Here is my report.

Posted on September 10, 2003 to Elsewhere


I'm really looking forward to going and seeing Dean when he pulls thru Iowa as that will probably be as close as he will make it to Nebraska. I'm relatively confident the numbers will be thinner at the Harkin Steak Fry. Also I will get to see Bill Clinton for the low low price of only $30

Posted by: keith on September 10, 2003 8:17 AM

That's great! I treminds me of this, by your fellow citizen and wiseass Peter Bagge.

Posted by: Beerzie Boy on September 10, 2003 8:24 AM

Great article, but can a group really be considered a capella if they are accompanied by bongos?

I'm pround to focus on the most trivial details!

Posted by: spygeek on September 10, 2003 9:41 AM

er, proud, too.

Posted by: spygeek on September 10, 2003 9:41 AM

three trillion dollars of our money, if you include the interest

Forget about the interest part, how does he explain this. The money which the government didn't take out of someone's salary rightfully belongs to someone else?? By not taking money out of my pocket and putting it into yours, I am stealing from you!?

Posted by: Rob on September 10, 2003 10:30 AM

I like how that morning news drawing makes you look you haven't washed your face in months, or haven't you???

Posted by: ranger on September 10, 2003 11:13 AM

We are living through a period of history that in the future will be labeled: "Worst President Ever." It might last another 14 months, or another 62 months. It's up to us.

Posted by: Cassandra on September 10, 2003 3:03 PM

Matthew, matthew, matthew...
with all of your reading of economic studies (see your sidebar) I would have expected you to catch on or at least poke fun of the interest on the tax cut with a little more behind it. The reason that there is interest attached to a tax cut, is because it is not a tax cut - it is a rebate - which has to be paid back later, ie:taxes. The country runs on debt - we have a lot if it. The only real way to receive a tax cut is to zero out all existing debt. And that my friend is gonna take a mightly long time. Especially with three trillion new dollars to pay back; including the interest.

Posted by: Ryan on September 10, 2003 5:58 PM

Read the whole thing out loud to my husband. Very funny. Now I'm late for the gym.

C'mon! The interest on three trillion is HUGE! We're rich, man. No one in this country ever needs to work again. Dean for president!

Posted by: Miel on September 10, 2003 6:29 PM

aren't we all jews for jesus?

Posted by: are you ok? on September 10, 2003 9:55 PM

...‘but a lot of my clients aren’t even registered to vote. They say ‘why bother, no one represents me.’ Dean is the only one I can see motivating enough of those people to go to the ballots. And that’s what’s going to win in 2004.’

"A Dean supporter is a Democrat who hasn't yet heard Dennis speak."
- Nicholas Johnson, Des Moines Register 7/21/03

Why bother?!?! Check out Dennis Kucinich for President, and then decide if no one represents you. For motivation, check out his website (http://www.kucinich.us) and watch the video This Is The Moment. And if you want to know the score on Dean vs. Dennis, check out http://www.kucinichdeancompare.com. Dean for universal health care? Too late, I'm laughing already:

"My [healthcare] plan is not reform — if you want to totally change the health-care system, I'm not your guy," Dr. Dean told supporters in Lebanon, N.H.
NY Times 07/30/07


Or perhaps you'd like to 'why bother?' four more years of Bush, Inc.

Posted by: Howard on September 11, 2003 2:17 AM

"...with all of your reading of economic studies..."

Ryan, if you actually read Landsburg’s book, you will see that he explains that there is no difference between taxing us now to pay for government spending and running a deficit now and taxing us later. All of the interest payments are made to those people who took their rebate and bought US Bonds (or bought products from someone who used the extra money they made as a result to buy bonds, etc.). If these people paid taxes now, they would lose the interest they could gain by investing in bonds (or the value they associate with consuming now instead of later) which 100% offsets the government interest savings in the future.

It is actually worse than that, because the government can borrow money cheaper than an individual, so you are worse off if the government takes $100 of your taxes today making you borrow an extra $100 from the bank to pay for a car (or whatever) than if the government lets you keep that $100 and takes $100 plus interest (at the government’s interest rate) from you ten years from now.

If you have a problem with the deficit, it is not the interest. It is simply that our government is spending too much of our money. If you don’t want to pay the interest you are talking about, then call your congressman and senators and tell them to stop funding wasteful programs.

Posted by: Rob on September 11, 2003 7:46 AM

"My [healthcare] plan is not reform — if you want to totally change the health-care system, I'm not your guy," Dr. Dean told supporters in Lebanon, N.H.
NY Times 07/30/07

Wow, how do you do that time travel thing? Can you bring back the entire newspaper from that day, or just the front page?

Posted by: Stella on September 11, 2003 11:00 AM

Cool. A defective yeti endorsement! For any of you yeti readers who are just a little bit interested in the good Doctor, please click over to:


(The official campaign weblog) and sign up for the "Support Dean" email list (upper right corner with the yellow and blue "Americans for Dean" banner). You can keep up to date on what the govenor is doing, and help show the power of grass roots organization just by being counted.

Keep your eye on the blog at the end of this month when they bring out "the bat" for fundraising, and you will see the amazing difference each and every person can really make.

Posted by: J in CA on September 11, 2003 3:58 PM

I side with Melissa. I just really don't want Bush to be re-elected. But I also want someone in office who's not going to forsake Iraq. We've done what we've done, we have to follow-through and help them build a strong government, and I DON'T think bids on rebuilding it should be privatized.

One thing of note that people seem to forget, and are truly not outraged enough about: Gore DID beat out Bush in the last presidential election. How has that whole fiasco been pushed to the background?? I seriously thought we should have completely revoted (I read that as revolted and I like that idea too). ALL of us. Of course, the logistics of that are ridiculous, but everything that has happened in the last 3 years having to do with the government has been ridiculous.

Anyway, you've got a great and thought-provoking blog! Thanks!

Posted by: K-A on September 17, 2003 5:25 PM

Just got back from vacation last night and I just read your article. It made me laugh, it made me cry, it made me want to run for president too. Hey, if Wesley Clark can do it why not me?

Posted by: Duane on September 18, 2003 1:37 PM